tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post8078860724597224460..comments2023-11-30T03:41:57.433-05:00Comments on This Cruellest Month: A defence of (procedural) poetryNathan Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08783782494546767453noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-4230695796215568752010-01-21T03:36:07.865-05:002010-01-21T03:36:07.865-05:00Brim over I assent to but I about the post should ...Brim over I assent to but I about the post should acquire more info then it has.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-50411588613704140582010-01-17T17:15:35.160-05:002010-01-17T17:15:35.160-05:00Amiable dispatch and this fill someone in on helpe...Amiable dispatch and this fill someone in on helped me alot in my college assignement. Gratefulness you for your information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-54035972474003123272010-01-13T19:17:50.832-05:002010-01-13T19:17:50.832-05:00I wish not acquiesce in on it. I over precise post...I wish not acquiesce in on it. I over precise post. Particularly the designation attracted me to be familiar with the whole story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-55181161522111651182007-04-10T14:42:00.000-04:002007-04-10T14:42:00.000-04:00A typo in my above response to Steve unintentional...A typo in my above response to Steve unintentionally transforms an observation about a very particular mode of writing into a universalizing gesture about poetry in general.<BR/><BR/>I said: "And we could even go so far as to say that an individual poem doesn't 'have" a point..." I, of course, meant that it's possbile to argue that "an individual poem <I>in Mac Low's body of work</I> doesn't 'Nathan Austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783782494546767453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-46975592020406014082007-04-10T04:15:00.000-04:002007-04-10T04:15:00.000-04:00A few points:What I meant by elitism is this: the ...A few points:<BR/><BR/>What I meant by <I>elitism</I> is this: the romantic notion of writing figures the poem as the product of a special and uniquely endowed mind. And inasmuch as this conception of the poet suggests he/she has <I>privileged</I> access to Truth, it <I>risks</I> positioning the poet above the rest of the social body, treating the poet as more special than others. This, in turn,Nathan Austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783782494546767453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-37415130870444071672007-04-08T09:35:00.000-04:002007-04-08T09:35:00.000-04:00Well, that's a very good argument. I especially li...Well, that's a very good argument. I especially like the exploration over epiphany phrase. I'm using that.<BR/><BR/>I guess I find your views on inspiration a little unsettling, true though they might be. It does sound elitist the way you describe it, but anyone who would find Coleridge or Whitman's goals elitist would likely find Tzara's experiments to be equally lofty and pretentious. And steve robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11714025342869446899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-66062793977601503582007-04-08T01:45:00.000-04:002007-04-08T01:45:00.000-04:00Steve: You raise a good question with regards to t...Steve: <BR/><BR/>You raise a good question with regards to the role inspiration plays in the creation of a procedural poem. Two things are at issue here: first, I oversimplified my explanation, and second, I think we mean very different things by <I>inspiration</I>.<BR/><BR/>In my post, <I>inspiration</I> means something fundamentally different from "having an idea," which is, I think, closer to Nathan Austinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783782494546767453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7448800191930915270.post-28376390489796197512007-04-07T11:10:00.000-04:002007-04-07T11:10:00.000-04:00well, you make a good argument. I guess I should h...well, you make a good argument. I guess I should have written about how all poets risk losing themselves in their subject matter. Or maybe procedure just scares me.<BR/>One small point is that you say the procedure poet is not "inspired" to write the poem but comes at it from a deliberate means. I thought we agreed even Tsara and Mac Low were inspired to develop their procedures, so saying they steve robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11714025342869446899noreply@blogger.com